The State of the Union: An Intelligent Conversation About the Issues Plaguing America

Two brilliant humans discuss the destruction of the social contract and more

When two sharp minds from completely different backgrounds come together to discuss the state of the US, you get this podcast: something that keeps you thinking for weeks, if not days.

Victor Davis Hanson is one of those people who straddles two worlds that sit on each side of the American divide these days: the intensely academic left (he’s a Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institute at Stanford University and a highly esteemed historian) and the working class right (a farmer). And Mike Rowe is an entrepreneur, podcaster, and advocate for people taking up work in the trades.

One of the biggest focal points of this conversation is how we’re being pit against one another via race, politics, and gender in order to distract us from the class warfare that’s being waged against us all. (Misdirection—one of the oldest tricks in the book.)

Whether you listen to this as you drive, work, make dinner, or sit quietly, I hope this conversation proves to be worth your while.